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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 12:53 am

I have no idea, but it looks to me live live axles are more in the spirit of FOFF than the independent suspension on traxxas and the like ?

Its also much easier to build your own truck from a live axle set up. I have shortened my CR01, but for a FOFF, I guess you would want to lengthen it either way its as simple as shorteneing the links or using longer ball cups.

Today is the first time I have seen any of this so I am probably wrong ;-)

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 12:57 am

either way

your words makw a good start, its still a realatively new idea so it is going to involve alot of testing, atleast we have a baseline to work from = SCX10 axles upwards > the sky's the limit
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 1:26 am

i know these arent live axles either, but they would look damn good with some sand paddles!

essentially a short course truck on a narrowed chassis

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 1:48 am



saw this video of an scx10 with a summit tranny. . .. . CRAZY fast and CRAZY slow very happy

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 2:23 am

Duane,

I hade proline sand paws on my slash, and they were mounted to CR-01 wheels, direct plug on without hassles.

The CR-01 tranny is very strong, so puttng some brushless grunt in it should work, the only thing is that it is very top heavy so try and remove some of the weight 'upstairs.
Lengthening it should be just a case of longer links, and then make sure your driveshafts are long enough.
Widening the stance would also be useful...
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 5:02 pm

now things are moving very happy


@jon .... i still prefer to build one than buy one out of the box ..... plus im really not sure on how the indepent suspension of the traxxas summit is??? i havent come across details of the summit yet ..... just not my cup of tea .....

a wheely king more so seems to be more for the FOFF standard very happy

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 5:17 pm

well what do we have here????? very happy

these axles are for sale in RCC for $70 plus shipping!!!!! very happy


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now this video is bad ass! very happy

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 7:17 pm

As far as I can tell all of these cars are basically 'crawlers on crack'

These could make for some epic beach sessions with improvised jumps and doubles etc.

Who is going to be first to announce a project ?

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 7:23 pm

very happy very happy very happy very happy very happy

crawlers on crack is a very specific way of putting it!!!!


some of the guys who have scalers have the best base rigs to start these ...... i'm gonna get me one ....

in due time ..... paypal currently is not my friend now very happy

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 7:37 pm

Hi strawb,

I can see how moa might not be the best starting point, unsprung weight and all that. But any shaft drive axles should be fine.

I have a project in mind based on the junfac joker I bought from Andy. I will pick up some aluminum sheet, channel and angle section next time I am in the uk to hash together a low cog, big travel chassis.

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 7:55 pm

the junfac joker chassis would work very well with some axial axles as a FOFF base rig! very happy

plus the axial axlse are very reasonably priced in RCC .... ive seen fully loaded beefed up ax-10 axles for less than $100 ...

i'm sure folks are wondering why i keep saying axial? ...... very simple ..... "after market support" ..... with what i see in RC FOFF .... you WILL break parts ..... you will chip gears .... you will break CVD's!

go with a base wherein you can BEEF it up after you break the stockers .... and axial is something that has that! very happy



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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 8:01 pm

@andy ...... you were saying something about the V-engine over revving sound????

maybe this'll work very happy

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2011 11:38 pm

Fellas, to remind you specially auh boys that we have a place that will cater this sport. this would be at the off road track on sheik zayed stadium. just a little modification on track and this babies will set to fly!. calling mr. tamaka aka kuya jun!
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2011 2:30 pm

Duane,

I am not sure if the CR-01 axles will handle that sort of abuse.....the knuckles especially are known to be a weakpoint.....brushless juice will kill them for sure....! The Axial axles and tranny would probably fit nicely in there...
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2011 4:47 pm

Hi,

I have run the fj with a 25tooth pinion and a silver can, it gets nicely airborne over curbs and ruts. I think a sport tuned or 13 turn ezrun with a 27 tooth pinion will be quick enough without putting too much stress on the drive train. I will be interested to see if the motor will run cool enough, can't see why not, there must be lots of tamiya monster trucks running sport tuned.

anyway I am in Moscow and it's -1 outside so heat is not my problem just yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 10:25 pm

so has anyone started anything yet????? very happy

im considering starting out by gettin some 2.2 paddle wheels from tower hobbies????

group buy??? very happy


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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 10:41 pm

which kit are you going to use for these FOFF? very happy
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 11:00 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 3:13 am

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which kit are you going to use for these FOFF? very happy

i plan to build one from axial ax-10 axles .... i have a custom cut aluminum chassis .... ive got lots of extra parts here to work with .... smile

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 2:19 pm

Im in as well, i need an RC like this in my arsenal
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 2:43 pm

Guys,

You can get proline sand paws from Speed Hobbies, I got them for my Slash some time back and they were only AED65 or thereabouts, try to buy local if you can, the price they wanted was acceptable and it is always good to support the local stores.
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Off-Road   Formula Off-Road - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 6:45 pm

yep i reccomend speedhobbies for them paddles, hobbies zone has them going for 135, double dammit
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